262c
Σωκράτης:
λόγων ἄρα τέχνην, ὦ ἑταῖρε, ὁ τὴν ἀλήθειαν μὴ εἰδώς, δόξας δὲ τεθηρευκώς, γελοίαν τινά, ὡς ἔοικε, καὶ ἄτεχνον παρέξεται.
Φαῖδρος:
κινδυνεύει.
Σωκράτης:
βούλει οὖν ἐν τῷ Λυσίου λόγῳ ὃν φέρεις, καὶ ἐν οἷς ἡμεῖς εἴπομεν ἰδεῖν τι ὧν φαμεν ἀτέχνων τε καὶ ἐντέχνων εἶναι;
Φαῖδρος:
πάντων γέ που μάλιστα, ὡς νῦν γε ψιλῶς πως λέγομεν, οὐκ ἔχοντες ἱκανὰ παραδείγματα.
Σωκράτης:
καὶ μὴν κατὰ τύχην γέ τινα, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἐρρηθήτην
262c
Socrates:
Then, my friend, he who knows not the truth, but pursues opinions, will, it seems, attain an art of speech which is ridiculous, and not an art at all.
Phaedrus:
Probably.
Socrates:
Shall we look in the speech of Lysias, which you have with you, and in what I said, for something which we think shows art and the lack of art?
Phaedrus:
By all means, for now our talk is too abstract, since we lack sufficient examples.
Socrates:
And by some special good fortune, as it seems,